TPF : Emergent Properties and Quantum Mechanics

[Gnomon]

Yes, I have always agreed with Enformation, with energy, information and matter being in a relationship, — Pop

Ironically, one problem with using "relationship" to define Information, is that a Google search almost always returns a long list of human relationship advice. Which is why I try to use more abstract terms like "ratio" or "pattern" or "form" or "Logos". One definition of "pattern" is : to give a regular or intelligible form to things. That's also similar to the definition of "geometry" : the shape and relative arrangement of the parts of something. So, I tend to think of "Enformation" as a process of re-arranging the geometric patterns of objects in the world. An enformed thing is essentially a meaningful pattern of both geometric and logical relationships.

Unfortunately, defining Ultimate Ideal Information as abstract (immaterial), geometric (measurable) or logical (meaningful) relationships is accurate, but even those terms carry some ancient metaphysical baggage, ascribing religious or sacred significance to mere angular ratios. Which implies that God has set-apart certain patterns & relationships as holy or consecrated or taboo. And, apart from specific religious traditions, I have no reason to think that anything in this world is off-limits to the inquiring mind. Likewise, defining two people or things as being "in a relationship" often implies a sacred emotional connection or bond. Which in the real world is, sadly, seldom actually inviolable.

So, it's hard to find words to describe information patterns & relationships, without getting entangled with gods & taboos & sentiment & magic. But I keep trying to find words to describe Enformationism, that don't remind people of specific religious & mystical traditions, when I'm trying to formulate a secular scientific paradigm.

Metaphysical Geometry :
Thus, we believe and we can show that metaphysical truths, which are entirely independent of the concepts of god, creation, divine, etc. but are at the same time the very source and ground of all these concepts and realities, is best conveyed through geometry.
https://tomajjavidtash.com/2016/03/13/m ... -geometry/

Sacred geometry : Sacred geometry ascribes symbolic and sacred meanings to certain geometric shapes and certain geometric proportions.[1] It is associated with the belief that a god is the geometer of the world.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sacred_geometry

LOGOS : the principle of reason
Logic : pattern recognition

[Gnomon]

My philosophy is most closely aligned with idealism, so, for me, attributing extra information to sense mediated perception is just a normal part of constructivist cognition. Spiritualism suggests an immaterial element, whereas I see a monist universe full of materials - no room left for the immaterial. — Pop

For me, Information can be both Ideal & immaterial and concrete & material. As a Platonic Ideal Form, the power of Enformation is timeless & spaceless. But, as a Material Real form, the energy of EnFormAction is bound by space & time. It's difficult to convey that dualistic Monism, but the BothAnd principle is my attempt to do so. Enformation is both material and immaterial.

Both/And Principle :
My coinage for the holistic principle of Complementarity, as illustrated in the Yin/Yang symbol. Opposing or contrasting concepts are always part of a greater whole. Conflicts between parts can be reconciled or harmonized by putting them into the context of a whole system.
http://blog-glossary.enformationism.info/page10.html

Note -- I use the term "Spiritualism" to indicate the primitive understanding of EnFormAction flowing in the world, enforming things and communicating ideas. Their "Spirit" (animating breath) is what we now know as "Energy" (causal force), and what I call the process of enforming (changing from one form to another). Sometimes the form changes, via evolutionary steps, from inert to living matter.

[Gnomon]

I sent you the link to the emergence article because your question indicated to me you don't understand what emergence is. I got whatever grasp of the issue I have from this article. — T Clark

Since I'm not likely to read that highly technical article, I was hoping you would be able to define "Emergence" in your own words. That would show that you actually have a "grasp" of the concept, as it applies to Quantum Mechanics. I suspect that your understanding may be a Reductionist (individualist) version of the sudden "coming into view" (appearance) of something that was hidden. And that might be compatible with a general dictionary definition.

But my definition of "Emergence" is Holistic, in the sense of something with novel properties or qualities "coming into being". It is also a defining feature of complex systems, including Quantum Entanglement. So that's why I think there is indeed a relationship between quantum mechanics and the phenomenon of Emergence.

Emergence :
1. the process of coming into view or becoming exposed after being concealed.
2. the process of coming into being, or of becoming important or prominent.
___Oxford Dictionary
3. Evolution. the appearance of new properties or species in the course of development or evolution.

Holism, Emergence, and the Crucial Distinction :
One issue of dispute between methodological individualists and methodological holists is whether holist explanations are dispensable in the sense that individualist explanations are able to do their explanatory job.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.10 ... 05344-8_10

Emergence :
In philosophy, systems theory, science, and art, emergence occurs when an entity is observed to have properties its parts do not have on their own, properties or behaviors which emerge only when the parts interact in a wider whole. Emergence plays a central role in theories of integrative levels and of complex systems.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergence

Defining emergence in physics :
The term emergent is used to evoke collective behaviour of a large number of microscopic constituents that is qualitatively different than the behaviours of the individual constituents.
https://www.nature.com/articles/npjquantmats201624

Strong Emergence Is Holism, Not Magic :
Strong emergence doesn't hold that high-level or irreducible properties arise spontaneously or inexplicably from aggregates, as if by magic. Instead, strong emergence is a type of holism in which complex aggregates are seen as more than mere aggregates from the start
https://www.zacharyfruhling.com/philoso ... -not-magic