Phil Forum : About God

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Phil Forum : About God

Post by Gnomon » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:17 pm

Naive questions about God :
But we are made to believe that these are childish questions and some arguments like ontological argument etc are shoved in our faces.But why we abandon them so easily are they unanswerable or are we lazy?

Darwin clearly mentions that the beginning was simple and taking that to its logical conclusion, God must've been, necessarily, simple; in fact God has to be the simplest of all and ergo, requires no further explanation. — TheMadFool

That's also how I view my meta-physical, non-anthro-morphic G*D : as a unique singular Whole, not a vast collection of parts. Dawkins seems to be a reductionist trying to understand a holistic concept. :smile:

How does one understand the whole without understanding the parts? The very definition of a whole is that it's made up of parts. — TheMadFool

That is indeed the nature of Wholes in the real world. But my notion of the hypothetical super-natural creator of Reality (Nature) is just the reverse. My metaphysical G*D is not a thing, or a collection of things, but the eternal-infinite Potential that I call BEING (the power to exist). In that case, the inexhaustible power is never diminished by creating novel things (holons).

Of course, this imaginary Ideal entity is merely a theoretical device, intended to explain how and why our Real world is what it is. I have no scriptures or scientific evidence to support that philosophical hypothesis. Yet, I use it as an axiom for my Enformationism worldview. :nerd:

Holon : simultaneously a whole and a part
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holon_(philosophy)
NOTE : Pace Koestler, In my custom-built scenario, the holons do not "add-up" to the "Holarch". Instead, they are saturated with BEING, and they are separate from the "Holarch" only in the eyes of limited space-time perceivers.



Above my paygrade, friend. Good luck :up: — TheMadFool

MIne too! But when has that ever stopped us from philosophizing? :smile:

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Re: Phil Forum : About God

Post by Gnomon » Tue Sep 01, 2020 12:20 pm

As in the proposed case of covariant quantum fields, the Fundamental can't have any parts, and so needs to be such as a 'wave' or a 'field', being simple and continuous. Of course, the notion of a 'God' person/system is as far off in the wrong direction as it could be. — PoeticUniverse

That is one way to imagine the hypothetical fundamental non-entity I call "G*D". It's like a continuous unbounded unlimited Field of Potential (BEING), within which particles (worlds) emerge -- as-if by magic -- and then disappear again, without diminishing the Power of the Field. This is not a traditional anthro-morphic deity, but a philosophical hypothesis to explain how our natural world seemingly emerged, complete with laws & energy, from nothing --- nothing but infinite Potential. Nothing is more "fundamental" than Existence (BEING).

PS__Don't you think this concept of BEING has poetic potential? :cool:

Entity
: a thing with distinct existence.

Non-entity : an amorphous indistinguishable field of potential

Potential : Possible, as opposed to Actual; capable of being or becoming. Potency.

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