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I was just wondering though, isn't everything natural? Our worldview has had the necessary memes injected into it to support that conclusion in me humble opinion. — Agent Smith
Yes. AFAIK, everything in the physical universe is natural, but not everything is physical. Most religions have postulated spirits & divinities that are non-physical and super-natural (i.e. Ideal). Hence, the historical association of "Metaphysics" with Spiritualism has made the term taboo, even for philosophical dialogs. When I refer to certain aspects of Nature as "meta-physical" or "non-physical" though, I'm not rejecting Nature. Instead, in my worldview, physical Nature has evolved an immaterial phenomenon that is not subject to physical laws : Mind.
By "non-physical, I simply mean "mental" or "ideal" or "cultural". The human Mind is unique in the natural world, in that it is able to imagine events & things that are not found in the Real physical world, but in Plato's Ideal meta-physical realm. That ability to transcend physical laws in imagination allows humans to do things in the real world that animals cannot do. For example, DaVinci imagined that he could fly like a bird, even though natural evolution didn't equip him for flight. Today, we take un-natural flying humans for granted, but our artificial wings must still work within the universal laws of physics.
The fact that Cultural evolution emerged from Natural evolutionary processes tells me that the Potential for non-physical functions was innate in the original mathematical Singularity --- which I imagine as a computer code. Like DNA, that cosmic code contained all the information (memes) necessary to construct a universe from scratch (something from nothing). By "no-thing" though, I mean simply "im-material". Unlike physical Genes, the meta-physical Memes encoded in the Cosmic Egg had no physical container. As pure information, they were self-contained.
Today most cosmologists assume that those Memes (e.g. natural Laws & Logic) necessarily existed before the Big Bang. Yet, the logic of evolution couldn't have existed in material form. So I assume that the logical structure existed in the Mathematical form of statistical Probability, where 100% probability is Necessity. Probability is not a physical thing, but merely the Potential to become Actual. Likewise, I envision the Programmer, who encoded the Singularity, as pure eternal Potential (causal power). Moreover, since the Conceptualizer of the universe was necessarily a priori (eternal), it is literally super-natural (above ; beyond ; outside) and meta-physical.
However, this necessary-but-hypothetical Actualizer must have created the physical world out of its own substance, which is what I call EnFormAction : the power to give form to the formless. This abstract creator concept is PanEnDeistic (all in god, god in all), which is similar to Spinoza's notion of deus sive natura (god is nature). It envisions no miraculous interventions, so whatever happens in Nature is the Will of G*D (including Good & Evil).
Meme : a concept, belief, or practice conceived as a unit of cultural information
Note -- I'm using the notion of a Meme to mean any unit of information (bits, bytes, codes, ideas)
EnFormAction :
Ententional Causation. A proposed metaphysical law of the universe that causes random interactions between forces and particles to produce novel & stable arrangements of matter & energy. It’s the creative force (aka : Divine Will) of the axiomatic eternal deity that, for unknown reasons, programmed a Singularity to suddenly burst into our reality from an infinite source of possibility. AKA : The creative power of Evolution; the power to enform; Logos; Change.
http://blog-glossary.enformationism.info/page8.html
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TPF : Metaphysical vs SuperNatural
Re: TPF : Metaphysical vs SuperNatural
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Absit iniuria, it's rather simple for me - Venessa Williams (tennis champion) is and we have in place methods to demonstrate that fact, but how do I do the same for God or a demon or an angel? Quite obviously, there's more than 1 sense of being and the two seem rather unconnected. — Agent Smith
There's no place for offense in Philosophy. When forum posters do take offense, its usually about Ideology (politics or religion).
Aristotle defined Metaphysics as the study of being qua being, and differentiated several categories : substance or essence or form (known by reason), material (known via senses), and spirit (divine). Material existence is the common sense meaning of Being. Essential existence is more like Plato's Form, an abstract definition (e.g. logical structure). And I'm not sure how he would define divine existence, except that it is more essential (Ideal) than real existence. So, I guess he would demonstrate the existence of God, by logical argument, as Necessary to make sense of all other kinds of being. That is how I came to my philosophical notion of G*D, Programmer, Creator, or BEING : a logically necessary pre-existence; an eternal Potential.
As you said, those different meanings of Being are dis-connected, except in the sense of logical entailment. For example, Eternal Potential is a necessary precursor to Temporal Actual things. And Logical Structure is necessary for Physical Constructs. As for the existence of Venus Williams, all I know is what I get from the mass media : the idea of a non-white female tennis champion.
BEING :
In my own theorizing there is one universal principle that subsumes all others, including Consciousness : essential Existence. Among those philosophical musings, I refer to the "unit of existence" with the absolute singular term "BEING" as contrasted with the plurality of contingent "beings" and things and properties. By BEING I mean the ultimate “ground of being”, which is simply the power to exist, and the power to create beings.
Note : Real & Ideal are modes of being. BEING, the power to exist, is the source & cause of Reality and Ideality. BEING is eternal, undivided and static, but once divided into Real/Ideal, it becomes our dynamic Reality.
http://blog-glossary.enformationism.info/page10.html
Absit iniuria, it's rather simple for me - Venessa Williams (tennis champion) is and we have in place methods to demonstrate that fact, but how do I do the same for God or a demon or an angel? Quite obviously, there's more than 1 sense of being and the two seem rather unconnected. — Agent Smith
There's no place for offense in Philosophy. When forum posters do take offense, its usually about Ideology (politics or religion).
Aristotle defined Metaphysics as the study of being qua being, and differentiated several categories : substance or essence or form (known by reason), material (known via senses), and spirit (divine). Material existence is the common sense meaning of Being. Essential existence is more like Plato's Form, an abstract definition (e.g. logical structure). And I'm not sure how he would define divine existence, except that it is more essential (Ideal) than real existence. So, I guess he would demonstrate the existence of God, by logical argument, as Necessary to make sense of all other kinds of being. That is how I came to my philosophical notion of G*D, Programmer, Creator, or BEING : a logically necessary pre-existence; an eternal Potential.
As you said, those different meanings of Being are dis-connected, except in the sense of logical entailment. For example, Eternal Potential is a necessary precursor to Temporal Actual things. And Logical Structure is necessary for Physical Constructs. As for the existence of Venus Williams, all I know is what I get from the mass media : the idea of a non-white female tennis champion.
BEING :
In my own theorizing there is one universal principle that subsumes all others, including Consciousness : essential Existence. Among those philosophical musings, I refer to the "unit of existence" with the absolute singular term "BEING" as contrasted with the plurality of contingent "beings" and things and properties. By BEING I mean the ultimate “ground of being”, which is simply the power to exist, and the power to create beings.
Note : Real & Ideal are modes of being. BEING, the power to exist, is the source & cause of Reality and Ideality. BEING is eternal, undivided and static, but once divided into Real/Ideal, it becomes our dynamic Reality.
http://blog-glossary.enformationism.info/page10.html
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